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jshep89
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Joined: 11 Apr 2014 15:57 Posts: 35 Location: 71.92.41.53
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I was wondering what kind of practical applications do you see a ternary computer being used for? As in if the IT industry actually started building ternary computers, what would people do with them? Would they be servers or desktops? if they are a server then what kind of role would it play in a network?
I've been looking into mainframes, and wondering if by using a ternary based system if these types of servers could become practical again.
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27 Oct 2011 23:48 |
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Mac Buster
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Joined: 03 Aug 2003 22:37 Posts: 1474 Location: Moscow
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Ternary in search engines (and servers) might be very handy since trinary search is better that binary one. Respectivery DB applications may be better in case of use of ternary datatypes.
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28 Oct 2011 03:28 |
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jshep89
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Joined: 11 Apr 2014 15:57 Posts: 35 Location: 71.92.41.53
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Interesting, What benefits might a ternary server have over a regular server? Like would it consume more or less power? And what kind of performance increase would it be?
I actually had a discussion with a friend of mine about this, and he was saying that companies like google are always looking into more efficient servers.
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28 Oct 2011 05:39 |
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Shaos
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Joined: 08 Jan 2003 23:22 Posts: 22757 Location: Silicon Valley
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Ternary hardware may do some math algorithms easier and that should potentially lead to less power consumption, but in order to do calculations better than modern binary processors we should reach modern complexity, size and speed - and it's almost impossible...
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28 Oct 2011 18:51 |
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jshep89
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Joined: 11 Apr 2014 15:57 Posts: 35 Location: 71.92.41.53
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Well lets start simple then, would a ternary calculator perform better than a binary calculator?
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29 Oct 2011 15:55 |
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Shaos
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Joined: 08 Jan 2003 23:22 Posts: 22757 Location: Silicon Valley
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No. It can not be cheaper than Chinese calculators. It can not be more energy efficient because we can't produce ternary integrated circuit yet. And it can not be faster because of the same reason as previous - there is no ternary IC created yet...
P.S. Probably I should learn how to create low-power binary IC first and then I can apply this knowledge to the ternary IC design...
P.P.S. Another direct advantage of any ternary design - less number of wires required (1.584962501 times less than in comparable binary design).
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29 Oct 2011 18:38 |
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jshep89
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Joined: 11 Apr 2014 15:57 Posts: 35 Location: 71.92.41.53
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Been busy so I wasn't able to respond, but I did come up with some other ideas for practical application. Also, I was wondering if theoretically a ternary computers did match the complexity, size, and speed of modern day ternary computers then it could lead to lower power consumption right? With that in mind is there any way to hypothesize how much of an improvement it would be? Like are we talking 5% or 20%?
As for other ideas for practical application:
For network security it could be used to form some stronger areas of encryption. Maybe ternary based networking devices could secure internal networks by converting all the traffic on an internal network into ternary based protocols. For example it could check the UDP packets moving inside the network to see if they are using a binary based protocol. If they are binary based then this networking device could then identify it as coming from a foreign host, and then monitor and/or prevent those packets from ever reaching a CSF.
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04 Nov 2011 21:24 |
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jshep89
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Joined: 11 Apr 2014 15:57 Posts: 35 Location: 71.92.41.53
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How difficult would it be to create a ternary based device capable of sending UDP or TCP packets?
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12 Jan 2012 20:28 |
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JeNNeR
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Joined: 18 Nov 2014 09:17 Posts: 52 Location: Отсюда
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You're be wondered, but it's already is
All (or most of) protocols of network connections based on trinary-packed physical level. Modulator convert binary data flow to the trinary analogue waveform flow. Inside wires we have a trinary signals. Demodulator convert this signals back to binary form.
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13 Jan 2012 10:36 |
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jshep89
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Joined: 11 Apr 2014 15:57 Posts: 35 Location: 71.92.41.53
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My idea is a device that works like a "cybergun" that could be used to defend a commercial network from DDOS attacks that use botnets. It would flood the connection of the zombies essentially shooting back. Could ternary be used to give some kind of performance advantage over a regular binary based NIC?
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31 Jan 2012 12:58 |
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Shaos
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Joined: 08 Jan 2003 23:22 Posts: 22757 Location: Silicon Valley
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22 Feb 2012 21:05 |
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Shaos
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moving up
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10 Nov 2012 09:08 |
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